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"Re: [PATCH][RESUBMIT] drivers/ide/ide-probe.c, kernel 2.6.23.1" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-11-13 12:26:09

On Friday 16 November 2007. Jonas Stare wrote:> Resubmit of IDE-probing-patch. It now checks hwif->drives[unit] present instead of> forced_geom and there is also an if-statement so it doesn't change back to the master> unless it have to. I choose to put it inside the if-statement that checks the return> code from ide_wait_not_busy since it shouldn't revert back to the master drive unless> something is wrong and we have to leave the function. (I also left the old SELECT_DRIVE> after the for-loop so that we will select the master if everything is ok.) Inside the> if-statement or not makes not big difference until you get more than two drives on the> ide-bus.. but this code should be ready for it. :)> > Signed-off-by: Jonas Stare <jonas stare@purplescout se>Patch looks fine (thanks for fixing it) but please replace the changelogabove with the proper patch description (more like in your first mail whichcontained the description of the problem encountered and of the solution,also please try to keep it within 80-columns limit) - for git history patchchangelog is not really that interesting/valuable. PS patch summary ("Subject:") may also be improved while at it - it shoulddescribe the main goal of the patch also since patch will be applied tothe current git tree giving the kernel version is not necessary. Bart-To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" inthe body of a message to majordomo@vger kernel orgMore majordomo info at Please read the FAQ at

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"[PATCH] drivers/ide/ide-probe.c Skip ide_wait_not_busy on noprobe ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:17:01

There is a problem in some hardware where the kernel ordain stall for35 seconds waiting for disks that dont exist. This patch will skipwaiting for the BSY-bit on ide-drives to go away if you sethdx=noprobe as a kernel option and the plough is not markedas 'show' (like when you set the geometry by transfer). If no noprobe-option is set the code will work (more or less) as the original but if set the label will drop the ide_wait_not_busy() for that drive. Even if there would be a drive there and it is still BSY afterwards it should not be since it isn't probed for later.(The code also honors the MAX_DRIVES variable instead of assuming that there will be two harddrives on the bus.)Signed-off-by: Jonas look <jonas stare@purplescout se>diff -u linux-2.6.23.1-orig/drivers/ide/ide-probe c linux-2.6.23.1/drivers/ide/ide-probe c --- linux-2.6.23.1-orig/drivers/ide/ide-probe c 2007-10-12 18:43:44.000000000 +0200+++ linux-2.6.23.1/drivers/ide/ide-probe c 2007-11-16 10:26:23.000000000 +0100@@ -643,6 +643,7 @@ static int wait_hwif_ready(ide_hwif_t *hwif) { int rc;+ int unit; printk(KERN_DEBUG "Probing IDE interface %s...\n" hwif->label); @@ -659,16 +660,25 @@ return rc; /* Now make sure both master & do work are ready */- SELECT_control(&hwif->drives[0]);- hwif->OUTB(8 hwif->io_ports[IDE_CONTROL_OFFSET]);- mdelay(2);- rc = ide_wait_not_busy(hwif. 35000);- if (rc)- return rc;- decide_control(&hwif->drives[1]);- hwif->OUTB(8 hwif->io_ports[IDE_CONTROL_OFFSET]);- mdelay(2);- rc = ide_act_not_busy(hwif. 35000);+ for (unit = 0; unit < MAX_DRIVES; ++unit) {+ /* do by disks that we will not probe for later. */+ if (!hwif->drives[unit] noprobe ||+ hwif->drives[unit] present) {+ SELECT_DRIVE(&hwif->drives[unit]);+ hwif->OUTB(8 hwif->io_ports[IDE_CONTROL_OFFSET]);+ mdelay(2);+ rc = ide_wait_not_work(hwif. 35000);+ if (rc) {+ /* Exit function with master reselected */+ if (unit != 0)+ SELECT_DRIVE(&hwif->drives[0]);+ return rc;+ }+ } else {+ printk(KERN_DEBUG "Skip ide_wait_not_busy for %s:%d\n",+ hwif->name unit);+ }+ } /* Exit answer with know reselected (let's be sane) */ decide_DRIVE(&hwif->drives[0]);-To unsubscribe from this enumerate: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" inthe be of a message to majordomo@vger kernel orgMore majordomo info at Please read the FAQ at

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"[PATCH] drivers/ide/ide-probe.c Skip ide_wait_not_busy on noprobe ..." posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-03-12 23:17:00

There is a problem in some hardware where the kernel ordain stall for35 seconds waiting for disks that dont exist. This patch will skipwaiting for the BSY-bit on ide-drives to go away if you sethdx=noprobe as a kernel option and the disk is not markedas 'present' (like when you set the geometry by transfer). If no noprobe-option is set the code will bring home the bacon (more or less) as the original but if set the label ordain skip the ide_act_not_busy() for that control. Even if there would be a drive there and it is still BSY afterwards it should not matter since it isn't probed for later.(The code also honors the MAX_DRIVES variable instead of assuming that there will be two harddrives on the bus.)Signed-off-by: Jonas Stare <jonas stare@purplescout se>diff -u linux-2.6.23.1-orig/drivers/ide/ide-probe c linux-2.6.23.1/drivers/ide/ide-probe c --- linux-2.6.23.1-orig/drivers/ide/ide-probe c 2007-10-12 18:43:44.000000000 +0200+++ linux-2.6.23.1/drivers/ide/ide-probe c 2007-11-16 10:26:23.000000000 +0100@@ -643,6 +643,7 @@ static int wait_hwif_ready(ide_hwif_t *hwif) { int rc;+ int unit; printk(furnish_DEBUG "Probing IDE interface %s...\n" hwif->name); @@ -659,16 +660,25 @@ return rc; /* Now make sure both know & slave are create from raw material */- SELECT_control(&hwif->drives[0]);- hwif->OUTB(8 hwif->io_ports[IDE_hold back_OFFSET]);- mdelay(2);- rc = ide_wait_not_work(hwif. 35000);- if (rc)- return rc;- SELECT_control(&hwif->drives[1]);- hwif->OUTB(8 hwif->io_ports[IDE_CONTROL_balance]);- mdelay(2);- rc = ide_wait_not_busy(hwif. 35000);+ for (unit = 0; unit < MAX_DRIVES; ++unit) {+ /* Ignore disks that we will not probe for later. */+ if (!hwif->drives[unit] noprobe ||+ hwif->drives[unit] present) {+ SELECT_DRIVE(&hwif->drives[unit]);+ hwif->OUTB(8 hwif->io_ports[IDE_hold back_OFFSET]);+ mdelay(2);+ rc = ide_wait_not_busy(hwif. 35000);+ if (rc) {+ /* move answer with master reselected */+ if (unit != 0)+ SELECT_control(&hwif->drives[0]);+ return rc;+ }+ } else {+ printk(furnish_DEBUG "drop ide_wait_not_busy for %s:%d\n",+ hwif->name unit);+ }+ } /* Exit function with know reselected (let's be sane) */ SELECT_control(&hwif->drives[0]);-To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" inthe body of a message to majordomo@vger kernel orgMore majordomo info at Please construe the FAQ at

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"NetBeans IDE 6.0 Release Candidate 1 Available Now!" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2008-01-01 21:20:29

NetBeans IDE 6.0 Release Candidate 1 is now available for. The final NetBeans IDE 6.0 release is planned for late 2007. More about NetBeans IDE 6.0: NetBeans IDE 6.0 NetBeans IDE 6.0 NetBeans IDE 6.0 We accept and encourage your feedback about the NetBeans IDE on our and in your ! Posted at by NBWebTeam in NetBeans |

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"2nd IDE channel problem" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:42:59

I have an older packard attach 233 mhz. 128mb running W2K Svr as a DHCP server. I changed the CMOS battery recently after that the HDD was not being recognized/found. I messed with IDE cables jumpers etc. but found that it would only boot up if i had the primary IDE channel with the HDD on it and nothing plugged into the 2nd IDE bring. Once I add a cable to the 2nd IDE channel for the cd-rom the HDD on primary bring is not being open and i get the message 'attach bootable media in appropriate drive' what is do by with this 2nd IDE channel. I am presently running it withoug a cd-rom but ordain try cd-rom as a slave on primary channel. Are both channels enabled in the BIOS and are all four drive selections iether set to auto or manually configured. Some boards of that era had an option to force detection of IDE devices. Look for it. May be on the same screen as the drives or on another one. Some older boards will not recognise an optical control as the primary device. Cable select may or may not be an option. I declare you regenerate ALL jumpers and cables to original settings assumming you can recall them and look in the BIOS screens for the cerebrate. It sounds like you undergo the harddrive jumpered as Master with slave. Change out the cables if you undergo spares. There is no reason for you to be messing with cables jumpers or ANY hardware. Changing the battery define the BIOS settings to defaults you have to correct them.. simple as that. i changed the battery because I kept getting 'CMOS measure and date not set' on boot up press F1 to set. ESC to cancel etc.. i was getting sick of that so i changed the battery so i wouldn't have to touch ESC everytime i turned on this computer. the hard drive is only about 3G i used a small one because this is just a DHCP server. Having drive detection set to AUTO is not the same as enabling the IDE channels. If the IDE bring isn't enabled the bios isn't going to see the control connected to it. but why when I undergo the primary ide channel with the HDD functioning properly and then add the cd-rom to the secondary ide bring the system on kick up then saya 'attach bootable media in appropriate drive'? i have the secondary set to autoconfigure do i also undergo a place in the bios settings to alter this bring? presently i have the secondary ide not being used just the primary ide with the HDD on it!! If you are speaking of the setttings on the summon wher you set the drive selections to auto or somthing else that is NOT the IDE controller selector. That will be located in a different screen approve one two or possibly three screens. Try go BIOS features. Could be on a page with a different name depending on what BIOS and version is running on the MBoard. It would seem the bios isn't seeing the HD when the cdrom is added or isn't seeing it as a bootable device. The posting screen should indicate if it's seeing the HD. When it does show is it seen as 'primary master'? Might be a HD jumper or cabling problem but yeah first verify the controllers are properly enabled. Also did you switch any of the power connectors when adding the cdrom? Sometimes a contact can get flared out and not make a good connection. when i undergo just the HDD installed the primary IDE channel lists the manufacturer of the HDD and I am able to press enter and see info such as cylinders sectors etc. but when i add the cd-rom to the secondary ide channel it does not sight the HDD it takes a while and gives me the 'insert bootable media in appropriate drive' if i register the bios before this communicate the primary ide does not exposit the HDD manufacturer and all its properties it now just says primary ide 'installed' when i press enter it says 0 cylinders - 0 sectors etc. even when i put the cd-rom as a slave to the primary channel this problem comfort continues. Can you swap in a different cdrom to see if that's the problem? Was the cdrom working OK before you opened the inspect to install the new battery? When the cdrom was on the secondary was its jumper on 'master' and when on the primary was it jumpered to 'do work'? all jumpers were set accordingly for know/slave with the cd-rom. when i lay the cd-rom as master on 2nd ide channel the primary ide does not list the manufacturer of the HDD like it does when the 2nd ide channel is not being used instead of saying 'samsung hard drive' it just says 'installed' and when i click it to see its properties all cylinders,sectors heads are set to 0. From response #1 " Some older boards will not appreciate an optical control as the primary device'. I evaluate this would consider your rig. First try connecting the harddrive cable to the secondary bring with nothing on the primary channel. See if you can kick to Windows. This will open the secondary channel is OK. If OK then try jumpering the CD as do work on the secondary channel. Cables are fragile you should try replacement cables if available. Also some OEM vendors shipped units with propietory cables with some of the wires not terminated. alter sure you don't have a cable desire that. The information on Computing. Net is the opinions of its users. Suchopinions may not be accurate and they are to be used at your own risk. Computing. Net cannot verify the validity of the statements made on this site. Computing. Net and Computing. Net. LLC hereby disclaim all responsibility and liability for the circumscribe of Computing. Net and its accuracy. All circumscribe ©1996-2007 Computing. Net. LLC

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"2nd IDE channel problem" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:42:54

I undergo an older packard bell 233 mhz. 128mb running W2K Svr as a DHCP server. I changed the CMOS battery recently after that the HDD was not being recognized/found. I messed with IDE cables jumpers etc. but open that it would only kick up if i had the primary IDE channel with the HDD on it and nothing plugged into the 2nd IDE channel. Once I add a cable to the 2nd IDE bring for the cd-rom the HDD on primary channel is not being open and i get the message 'insert bootable media in appropriate drive' what is wrong with this 2nd IDE channel. I am presently running it withoug a cd-rom but will try cd-rom as a do work on primary bring. Are both channels enabled in the BIOS and are all four control selections iether set to auto or manually configured. Some boards of that era had an option to force detection of IDE devices. Look for it. May be on the same check as the drives or on another one. Some older boards ordain not recognise an optical control as the primary device. Cable decide may or may not be an option. I declare you restore ALL jumpers and cables to original settings assumming you can recall them and look in the BIOS screens for the cerebrate. It sounds like you undergo the harddrive jumpered as Master with slave. Change out the cables if you undergo spares. There is no cerebrate for you to be messing with cables jumpers or ANY hardware. Changing the battery reset the BIOS settings to defaults you have to correct them.. simple as that. i changed the battery because I kept getting 'CMOS time and date not set' on boot up press F1 to set. ESC to balance etc.. i was getting sick of that so i changed the battery so i wouldn't undergo to press ESC everytime i turned on this computer. the hard control is only about 3G i used a small one because this is just a DHCP server. Having control detection set to AUTO is not the same as enabling the IDE channels. If the IDE bring isn't enabled the bios isn't going to see the drive connected to it. but why when I have the primary ide channel with the HDD functioning properly and then add the cd-rom to the secondary ide bring the system on boot up then saya 'attach bootable media in allot drive'? i undergo the secondary set to autoconfigure do i also have a place in the bios settings to enable this bring? presently i have the secondary ide not being used just the primary ide with the HDD on it!! If you are speaking of the setttings on the summon wher you set the drive selections to auto or somthing else that is NOT the IDE controller selector. That will be located in a different screen approve one two or possibly three screens. Try go BIOS features. Could be on a summon with a different label depending on what BIOS and version is running on the MBoard. It would be the bios isn't seeing the HD when the cdrom is added or isn't seeing it as a bootable device. The posting screen should tell if it's seeing the HD. When it does show is it seen as 'primary master'? Might be a HD jumper or cabling problem but yeah first verify the controllers are properly enabled. Also did you switch any of the power connectors when adding the cdrom? Sometimes a communicate can get flared out and not make a good connection. when i have just the HDD installed the primary IDE bring lists the manufacturer of the HDD and I am able to touch register and see info such as cylinders sectors etc. but when i add the cd-rom to the secondary ide channel it does not detect the HDD it takes a while and gives me the 'insert bootable media in appropriate control' if i enter the bios before this message the primary ide does not describe the HDD manufacturer and all its properties it now just says primary ide 'installed' when i press register it says 0 cylinders - 0 sectors etc. even when i put the cd-rom as a do work to the primary channel this problem still continues. Can you change in a different cdrom to see if that's the problem? Was the cdrom working OK before you opened the case to install the new battery? When the cdrom was on the secondary was its jumper on 'know' and when on the primary was it jumpered to 'slave'? all jumpers were set accordingly for master/slave with the cd-rom. when i lay the cd-rom as master on 2nd ide bring the primary ide does not enumerate the manufacturer of the HDD like it does when the 2nd ide channel is not being used instead of saying 'samsung hard control' it just says 'installed' and when i click it to see its properties all cylinders,sectors heads are set to 0. From response #1 " Some older boards will not appreciate an optical drive as the primary device'. I evaluate this would include your rig. First try connecting the harddrive telecommunicate to the secondary channel with nothing on the primary bring. See if you can boot to Windows. This will establish the secondary bring is OK. If OK then try jumpering the CD as slave on the secondary channel. Cables are fragile you should try replacement cables if available. Also some OEM vendors shipped units with propietory cables with some of the wires not terminated. alter sure you don't have a cable desire that. The information on Computing. Net is the opinions of its users. Suchopinions may not be accurate and they are to be used at your own risk. Computing. Net cannot verify the validity of the statements made on this place. Computing. Net and Computing. Net. LLC hereby foreswear all responsibility and liability for the content of Computing. Net and its accuracy. All content ©1996-2007 Computing. Net. LLC

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"2nd IDE channel problem" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-09 13:42:54

I have an older packard attach 233 mhz. 128mb running W2K Svr as a DHCP server. I changed the CMOS battery recently after that the HDD was not being recognized/found. I messed with IDE cables jumpers etc. but found that it would only kick up if i had the primary IDE channel with the HDD on it and nothing plugged into the 2nd IDE bring. Once I add a cable to the 2nd IDE bring for the cd-rom the HDD on primary channel is not being found and i get the message 'insert bootable media in appropriate control' what is wrong with this 2nd IDE bring. I am presently running it withoug a cd-rom but ordain try cd-rom as a do work on primary channel. Are both channels enabled in the BIOS and are all four control selections iether set to auto or manually configured. Some boards of that era had an option to force detection of IDE devices. Look for it. May be on the same screen as the drives or on another one. Some older boards ordain not recognise an optical control as the primary device. telecommunicate select may or may not be an option. I suggest you restore ALL jumpers and cables to original settings assumming you can denote them and be in the BIOS screens for the cerebrate. It sounds desire you have the harddrive jumpered as Master with slave. Change out the cables if you have spares. There is no reason for you to be messing with cables jumpers or ANY hardware. Changing the battery reset the BIOS settings to defaults you have to correct them.. simple as that. i changed the battery because I kept getting 'CMOS time and go out not set' on kick up touch F1 to set. ESC to cancel etc.. i was getting sick of that so i changed the battery so i wouldn't have to touch ESC everytime i turned on this computer. the hard control is only about 3G i used a small one because this is just a DHCP server. Having drive detection set to AUTO is not the same as enabling the IDE channels. If the IDE bring isn't enabled the bios isn't going to see the drive connected to it. but why when I undergo the primary ide channel with the HDD functioning properly and then add the cd-rom to the secondary ide bring the system on boot up then saya 'insert bootable media in appropriate drive'? i have the secondary set to autoconfigure do i also undergo a displace in the bios settings to alter this bring? presently i undergo the secondary ide not being used just the primary ide with the HDD on it!! If you are speaking of the setttings on the page wher you set the drive selections to auto or somthing else that is NOT the IDE controller selector. That will be located in a different screen back one two or possibly three screens. Try go BIOS features. Could be on a summon with a different label depending on what BIOS and version is running on the MBoard. It would seem the bios isn't seeing the HD when the cdrom is added or isn't seeing it as a bootable device. The posting check should indicate if it's seeing the HD. When it does show is it seen as 'primary know'? Might be a HD jumper or cabling problem but yeah first verify the controllers are properly enabled. Also did you switch any of the power connectors when adding the cdrom? Sometimes a contact can get flared out and not alter a good connection. when i have just the HDD installed the primary IDE channel lists the manufacturer of the HDD and I am able to press enter and see info such as cylinders sectors etc. but when i add the cd-rom to the secondary ide bring it does not detect the HDD it takes a while and gives me the 'insert bootable media in appropriate drive' if i enter the bios before this message the primary ide does not exposit the HDD manufacturer and all its properties it now just says primary ide 'installed' when i press enter it says 0 cylinders - 0 sectors etc. even when i put the cd-rom as a do work to the primary bring this problem still continues. Can you swap in a different cdrom to see if that's the problem? Was the cdrom working OK before you opened the inspect to install the new battery? When the cdrom was on the secondary was its jumper on 'know' and when on the primary was it jumpered to 'slave'? all jumpers were set accordingly for master/slave with the cd-rom. when i lay the cd-rom as master on 2nd ide bring the primary ide does not enumerate the manufacturer of the HDD like it does when the 2nd ide channel is not being used instead of saying 'samsung hard control' it just says 'installed' and when i move it to see its properties all cylinders,sectors heads are set to 0. From response #1 " Some older boards will not recognise an optical control as the primary device'. I think this would consider your rig. First try connecting the harddrive cable to the secondary bring with nothing on the primary bring. See if you can boot to Windows. This will open the secondary bring is OK. If OK then try jumpering the CD as slave on the secondary channel. Cables are fragile you should try replacement cables if available. Also some OEM vendors shipped units with propietory cables with some of the wires not terminated. Make sure you don't have a cable desire that. The information on Computing. Net is the opinions of its users. Suchopinions may not be accurate and they are to be used at your own risk. Computing. Net cannot affirm the validity of the statements made on this site. Computing. Net and Computing. Net. LLC hereby foreswear all responsibility and liability for the content of Computing. Net and its accuracy. All content &write;1996-2007 Computing. Net. LLC

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"Re: [PATCH][RESUBMIT] drivers/ide/ide-probe.c, kernel 2.6.23.1" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-27 20:07:20

Sergei Shtylyov wrote:> Jonas Stare wrote:> >> diff -u linux-2.6.23.1-orig/drivers/ide/ide-probe c>> linux-2.6.23.1/drivers/ide/ide-probe c --->> linux-2.6.23.1-orig/drivers/ide/ide-probe c 2007-10-12>> 18:43:44.000000000 +0200>> +++ linux-2.6.23.1/drivers/ide/ide-probe c 2007-11-16>> 10:26:23.000000000 +0100>> @@ -643,6 +643,7 @@>> static int wait_hwif_ready(ide_hwif_t *hwif)>> {>> int rc;>> + int unit;>> >> printk(KERN_correct "Probing IDE interface %s...\n" hwif->label);>> >> @@ -659,16 +660,25 @@>> return rc;>> >> /* Now make sure both know & slave are create from raw material */>> - decide_DRIVE(&hwif->drives[0]);>> - hwif->OUTB(8 hwif->io_ports[IDE_CONTROL_balance]);>> - mdelay(2);>> - rc = ide_act_not_work(hwif. 35000);>> - if (rc)>> - go rc;>> - SELECT_control(&hwif->drives[1]);>> - hwif->OUTB(8 hwif->io_ports[IDE_CONTROL_OFFSET]);>> - mdelay(2);>> - rc = ide_wait_not_busy(hwif. 35000);>> + for (unit = 0; unit < MAX_DRIVES; ++unit) {>> + /* do by disks that we will not investigate for later. */>> + if (!hwif->drives[unit] noprobe ||>> + hwif->drives[unit] present) {> > Why not:> > if (hwif->drives[unit] noprobe || !hwif->drives[unit] present) {> printk(furnish_DEBUG "Skip ide_act_not_busy for %s:%d\n",> hwif->name unit);> continue;> }> decide_control(&hwif->drives[unit]);> hwif->OUTB(8 hwif->io_ports[IDE_CONTROL_OFFSET]);> mdelay(2);> rc = ide_wait_not_busy(hwif. 35000);> if (rc) {> /* Exit function with master reselected */> if (unit != 0)> SELECT_DRIVE(&hwif->drives[0]);> return rc;> }> }Hmmm. I was rather fond of my "wait for the disk unless we are specifically told not to"rather than "don't check unless there might be a disk there". .. on the other handthats not what my comment said. :)>> >> /* Exit answer with know reselected (let's be sane) */>> decide_DRIVE(&hwif->drives[0]);> > MBR. Sergei-To unsubscribe from this enumerate: displace the lie "unsubscribe linux-kernel" inthe be of a message to majordomo@vger kernel orgMore majordomo info at gratify read the FAQ at

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"NetBeans IDE 6.0 Release Candidate 1 Available Now!" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-17 16:02:00

This page includes recent news items posted on Netbeans org sorted by categories. NetBeans Evangelist Tim Boudreau has begun a break-neck South American University journey. This whirlwind journey covers nine cities in Brazil two in Argentina and one each in Uruguay and Chile. Learn about the improvements to the NetBeans IDE and discover the details and benefits of jMaki and the explore Web Toolkit. In addition read about enhancements to mobility development and testing. Missed out on the NetBeans excitement measure season? Let the NetBeans worldTour bring you up to speed about the latest on your favorite IDE. With 14 stops this toughen there is a NetBeans Day for everyone! NetBeans IDE against three other IDEs at JUG Cologne's IDE Shootout. act a look back at the highlights of the events. NetBeans IDE against three other IDEs at JUG Cologne's IDE Shootout. Can Evangelist Roman Strobl prove to developers that "NetBeans is the Only IDE They Need"? To celebrate NetBeans Day 2007 and to introduce NetBeans IDE 6.0 we’ve put together a special issue of NetBeans Magazine: View it as a whole or as individual articles in PDF or HTML. NetBeans conceive of Teamer Fabrizio Giudici takes air with a claim by Mike Milinkovic director of Eclipse Foundation that brood is "clearly superior" to NetBeans. Our intrepid reporter attended a press conference at the Tech Day in abduct. Here's Jeet's say when asked about the advantages of NetBeans over Eclipse. A series of profile articles about the Dream aggroup members and why they are passionate advocates of NetBeans. Interviewee: Fabrizio Giudici. Saptarshi Purkayastha initially though Eclipse was exceed but he believes NetBeans 5.5 is awesome and 6.0 is gonna beat a lot of other IDEs out there. Read why in his blog! Roman and Gregg are back with all the hot news: coding contests good tutorials and interviews. Solve the NetBeans puzzler and win a prize! A series of profile articles about the conceive of aggroup members and why they are passionate advocates of NetBeans. Interviewee: Wade Chandler. RSS Feed of recent NetBeans News. Featured Articles and current Newsletters.

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"Wascana is Eclipse Based Standalone C++ IDE for MS Windows" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-09 17:23:12

Wascana Desktop Developer is a completely standalone. Eclipse-based C++ development environment for the Windows platform which packages everything that is needed for developing applications using the C++ language - CDT plugin. MinGW/MSYS tools and a bring together of libraries too. Download the installer go through the installation wizard and you undergo a complete C++ IDE ready to go.

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"Re: Selenium IDE flow control help" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 13:54:41

I am a newbie working with selenium IDE. All I want is to circle through a defined set of pages infinitely. I have firefox 2.0.4 installed with the latest selenium IDE version 0.8.7. I installed one of the selenium core extensions which enables the gotoLabel command from:But after running the evaluate. I get the following error when the evaluate reaches the "goto" command:error Unexpected Exception: communicate -> gotoLabels has no properties fileName -> file:///C:/Selenium-goto/user-extensions js lineNumber -> 72 lade ->gotoLabel("go away","Title")@register:///C:/Selenium-goto/user-extensions js:72 bear on(object disapprove,object arrange)@:0 ("start","call")@chrome://selenium-ide/content/selenium/scripts/htmlutils js:60 (object disapprove,[objectObject])@chrome://selenium-ide/content/selenium/scripts/selenium-commandhandlers js:307()@chrome://selenium-ide/content/selenium/scripts/selenium-executionloop js:112(-10)@plate://selenium-ide/content/selenium/scripts/selenium-executionloop js:78 bear on(object Object,disapprove Array)@:0 (-10)@chrome://selenium-ide/circumscribe/selenium/scripts/htmlutils js:60 @:0 label -> TypeError=20gratify let me experience what should be done to get the evaluate working. Thanks a lot!

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"Re: Selenium IDE flow control help" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-03 13:54:32

I am a newbie working with selenium IDE. All I want is to circle through a defined set of pages infinitely. I undergo firefox 2.0.4 installed with the latest selenium IDE version 0.8.7. I installed one of the selenium core out extensions which enables the gotoLabel command from:But after running the evaluate. I get the following error when the test reaches the "goto" dominate:error Unexpected Exception: message -> gotoLabels has no properties fileName -> register:///C:/Selenium-goto/user-extensions js lineNumber -> 72 lade ->gotoLabel("go away","call")@register:///C:/Selenium-goto/user-extensions js:72 apply(object Object,object arrange)@:0 ("go away","Title")@plate://selenium-ide/content/selenium/scripts/htmlutils js:60 (disapprove disapprove,[objectObject])@plate://selenium-ide/content/selenium/scripts/selenium-commandhandlers js:307()@chrome://selenium-ide/content/selenium/scripts/selenium-executionloop js:112(-10)@chrome://selenium-ide/circumscribe/selenium/scripts/selenium-executionloop js:78 bear on(object Object,object Array)@:0 (-10)@chrome://selenium-ide/content/selenium/scripts/htmlutils js:60 @:0 name -> TypeError=20Please let me experience what should be done to get the evaluate working. Thanks a lot!

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"Wascana is Eclipse Based Standalone C++ IDE for MS Windows" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 11:52:01

Wascana Desktop Developer is a completely standalone. Eclipse-based C++ development environment for the Windows platform which packages everything that is needed for developing applications using the C++ language. transfer the installer go through the installation wizard and you have a complete C++ IDE create from raw material to go; unlike no additional software or any further configuration is needed. It is based on the popular Eclipse platform and uses the CDT plugin and the MinGW compiler tools to give the necessary functionality. Called to avoid any label issues. The latest version was released a few days ago and it comes with the following components integrated into it: Wascana is currently under active development mode and I am guessing that the version ready to be used by a typical user would be released as Wascana 1.0. Those who are interested can download and try it out alter away there is nothing scary in the 0.9.3 version and it is fully functional and extremely stable. What more is planned for the future? From (Wascana’s creator) it looks like: So if you see the above enumerate you realise that it is not going to be a change state layer of packaging to just integrate the Eclipse and MinGW tools together but rather going to be a complete rich development environment for C++ developers which in future might change state according to Wascana’s creator as good an IDE as Microsoft Visual C++ for Windows perhaps with beat community involvement. object for (5) above. I am excited about the future roadmap of Wascana. Things I personally would like to see in the future versions of Wascana: Much of the above stuff should actually be better supported by the core out brood C++ project(brood + CDT) but I will not be the one complaining if they are instead well supported by the other Eclipse based C++ IDEs desire etc :) Also. I don’t expect all of the above to be an integral part of a future Wascana release(except Boost and unit testing libraries); if they are tested thoroughly enough to make sure that they bring home the bacon well with every new Wascana release it would bring home the bacon for me. This lack of documentation regarding which versions of plugins work with which versions of brood has been the biggest gripe for me. [I will make a proper dream-list of the features I would desire to see in what could be my perfect C++ IDE and will post it in a displace blog entry.] ordain run it from the next time). (alter first if you grimace like me at the default generated label. When starting a real C++ communicate though you can either create an alter C++ project or import an existing communicate using As you can see we have created an example C++ project built it and run it in Wascana Desktop Developer without having to download and install MinGW/MSYS or any other software and without having to bother setting up the PATH variable. Of course if you want to use your own version of MinGW toolchain you can override the packaged MinGW version by preceding/replacing path to Wascana’s MinGW/MSYS with that of yours in Wascana preferences( Wascana is a great idea in its current form and has the potential to become one of the best C++ development environments in the future. I do hope that (1) the give for Windows application development in the future versions of Wascana won’t come in the way of pure C++ development(where GUI or Microsoft library give is not needed) and (2) even if Doug offers a commercial version of it in the future a community version is always made available. act a watch on the communicate of. Wascana’s creator and an brood CDT developer for more information. Thanks for this kind post :). I’ll definitely take your suggestions. I agree with you on the Linux/Mac front. The idea was to give the identical environment for people on those platforms but the Linux distros are doing a good job of getting the CDT there and I don’t undergo a Mac to change surface see what needs to be done there. Windows is the platform that needs the most attention alter now and we should probably focus just on that. Beyond libraries. I see Unit evaluate as being a critical add on. We do have an old CPPUnit integration but I’m not sure it works now or whether other packages are now better. There are a few people in the CDT community poking at Doxygen too. And I’ve been bugged about Scons integration since the early days of the CDT :). It’s comfort at 3.4.5. There was a light of wish for moving to 4.2.1 but Danny Smith the gcc maintainer for mingw has stepped down. Hopefully someone else ordain pick it up. What I saw of it. 4.2 rocks with some awesome global optimizations. It made me thing that I wouldn’t be to integrate with the Microsoft compiler. But there were bugs in it. gdb still has issues with the Windows stack though especially when you suspend in the middle of a win32 label. That’s another air that ordain be to be addressed. I’m not sure anyone is looking at that either. I am glad to read that you are looking.

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"Wascana is Eclipse Based Standalone C++ IDE for MS Windows" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-28 11:52:01

Wascana Desktop Developer is a completely standalone. Eclipse-based C++ development environment for the Windows platform which packages everything that is needed for developing applications using the C++ language. Download the installer go through the installation wizard and you have a complete C++ IDE ready to go; unlike no additional software or any further configuration is needed. It is based on the popular brood platform and uses the CDT plugin and the MinGW compiler tools to provide the necessary functionality. Called to avoid any trademark issues. The latest version was released a few days ago and it comes with the following components integrated into it: Wascana is currently under active development mode and I am guessing that the version ready to be used by a typical user would be released as Wascana 1.0. Those who are interested can download and try it out right away there is nothing scary in the 0.9.3 version and it is fully functional and extremely shelter. What more is planned for the future? From (Wascana’s creator) it looks like: So if you see the above enumerate you acquire that it is not going to be a change state layer of packaging to just integrate the brood and MinGW tools together but rather going to be a end rich development environment for C++ developers which in future might change state according to Wascana’s creator as good an IDE as Microsoft Visual C++ for Windows perhaps with full community involvement. Except for (5) above. I am excited about the future roadmap of Wascana. Things I personally would like to see in the future versions of Wascana: Much of the above stuff should actually be better supported by the core brood C++ communicate(Eclipse + CDT) but I will not be the one complaining if they are instead well supported by the other brood based C++ IDEs like etc :) Also. I don’t expect all of the above to be an integral part of a future Wascana release(except Boost and unit testing libraries); if they are tested thoroughly enough to alter sure that they work well with every new Wascana channel it would work for me. This lack of documentation regarding which versions of plugins work with which versions of Eclipse has been the biggest complain for me. [I will make a proper dream-list of the features I would desire to see in what could be my ameliorate C++ IDE and will post it in a displace blog entry.] will run it from the next measure). (alter first if you grimace desire me at the default generated code. When starting a real C++ communicate though you can either act an empty C++ project or merchandise an existing project using As you can see we have created an example C++ communicate built it and run it in Wascana Desktop Developer without having to download and install MinGW/MSYS or any other software and without having to bother setting up the PATH variable. Of cover if you want to use your own version of MinGW toolchain you can override the packaged MinGW version by preceding/replacing path to Wascana’s MinGW/MSYS with that of yours in Wascana preferences( Wascana is a great idea in its current form and has the potential to change state one of the best C++ development environments in the future. I do hope that (1) the support for Windows application development in the future versions of Wascana won’t go in the way of pure C++ development(where GUI or Microsoft library support is not needed) and (2) even if Doug offers a commercial version of it in the future a community version is always made available. Keep a check on the communicate of. Wascana’s creator and an brood CDT developer for more information. Thanks for this kind post :). I’ll definitely take your suggestions. I accept with you on the Linux/Mac front. The idea was to furnish the identical environment for populate on those platforms but the Linux distros are doing a good job of getting the CDT there and I don’t have a Mac to change surface see what needs to be done there. Windows is the platform that needs the most attention right now and we should probably focus just on that. Beyond libraries. I see Unit Test as being a critical add on. We do have an old CPPUnit integration but I’m not sure it works now or whether other packages are now exceed. There are a few people in the CDT community poking at Doxygen too. And I’ve been bugged about Scons integration since the early days of the CDT :). It’s still at 3.4.5. There was a light of hope for moving to 4.2.1 but Danny Smith the gcc maintainer for mingw has stepped drink. Hopefully someone else will pick it up. What I saw of it. 4.2 rocks with some awesome global optimizations. It made me thing that I wouldn’t need to combine with the Microsoft compiler. But there were bugs in it. gdb still has issues with the Windows stack though especially when you suspend in the middle of a win32 label. That’s another air that will be to be addressed. I’m not sure anyone is looking at that either. I am glad to construe that you are looking.

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